The tooth that has been bothering me for years, off and on, but most recently, very badly, is decayed into the pulp. I had an X-ray taken two days ago. The dentist says I need a root canal, and is referring me to whomever the Oregon Health Plan works with to do such procedures. But I'm scared, to be honest. Here is why.
I have a friend who has a friend who is a new dentist, who has told him tales. This young dentist filled in for various dentists at first, when they were on vacation. He was horrified at the extremely shoddy work done, and lies told about the work done, to people of low income brackets and especially those on the Oregon Health Plan.
Another young dentist described the practise he now works for, a tooth mill, owned by a dentist who took on over 10,000 Oregon Health Plan patients, basically he said to get the monthly stipend for having them as patients because there is no way in hell one dentist can do work for 10,000 people.
Root canals are tricky and can lead to chronic infection if not done correctly. I have crappy insurance. So I am leaning towards having the tooth pulled instead.
It has been exceedingly painful for months now. I have sometimes pulled out a pair of pliers and considered pulling it myself. I can't chew on that side. The nerves are inflamed all over that side of my face and into my ear. I have to get this resolved and I don't want to have my health ruined permanently by a shoddy speedo root canal done by a dentist who does third rate procedures to people with bad insurance.
I'm supposed to hear back from the Oregon Health Plan in a couple of weeks I guess. I tried to call them, but the person who answered the phone told me she has no idea when the referral will be processed or where I would be sent or even if it would be approved. The dentist office said I would be called by ODS, the HMO under the OR Health Plan that does this, but this woman said I would not be called, that the office I get referred to will call me. Huh?
It's like the patient is just totally out of the loop anymore. You're supposed to not question, not even ask who the hell is going to be doing a delicate procedure on your mouth, or if you'll be approved for it even and if not, what then? The desk phone answering woman acted like I was a real problem just for asking. And in the meantime, you have to deal with a firey painful jaw, face, ear and mouth.
This is why the whiskey and pliars approach seems attractive by comparison.
Sometimes ignorance is indeed bliss. Such practises may not be widespread.
I have a possible solution in mind for maintaining the space---an athletic mouthguard could be modified with a strut, to wear at night, I believe, to help maintain space between the premolar and last molar, if that tooth is pulled.
I guess after hearing so many stories from young dentists, shocked by what goes on, that I'm scared to death to have anything done by somebody whom I don't know personally.
Well, I read on the web (and everything is true on the web, right?) that getting a root canal without protecting the dry dead tooth with a crown, is a waste of money, that the tooth is likely to become brittle and crack or split in two. So if I don't get a crown, may as well have it pulled.
Cheaper, too, except these web pages I read, scare you, and say your other teeth will then start shifting around and screw up everything. Bottom line, seems there is no simple solution, once a tooth has gone bad.
I never had any cavities until I was in my late twenties. By then I'd been on psyche drugs that would dry your mouth out worse than meth. Elavil was probably the worst. I couldn't swallow without drinking water to do it. My lips would stick to my teeth and my tongue to the roof of my mouth. It was hard to even talk. Lithium was bad too. Psyche drugs will kill you.
Meth mouth? Try psyche drug mouth. Psyche drugs, forced on me, for decades, dried my mouth out probably worse than or as bad as meth would have. The side effects of psyche drugs include tooth decay and loss, due to dry mouth and lack of circulation and saliva to the gums and teeth. So anyhow, my dental problems then began in earnest. However, medicaid did not cover dental visits at that time, even when dental problems were the result of forced psyche drug side affects. What a wonderful world psychiatry creates for its victims.
Well, anyhow. I have been referred to a Salem dentist for the root canal, if I decide to have it and not get the tooth pulled, since it will not be crowned afterwards.
Anybody out there had a root canal without a crown and if so, how'd that work out?
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I did indeed, Jody, have a root canal without a crown. The dentist just filled the cavity and the tooth is fine. Has been for the last 5 years, but I suppose it depends on the tooth itself.
ReplyDeleteI suppose it does, how much is left, that sort of thing. I bet a lot of people get root canals without crowns. I really don't know much about the whole root canal "experience" except what I've read on a couple of websites about it.
ReplyDeleteI have had trouble with one tooth that drives me crazy. I have great dental insurance but that does not matter. As a scientist - tho not a dentist - I am not a fan of root canals. They can cause all manner of infections and can lead to more serious illnesses.
ReplyDeleteWe are all unique and all teeth are unique and the reason I actually finally acquiesced and had a root canal done on this tooth is that it's in the front of my mouth, next to one I broke as a child. However, I do plan in the future to have it cleaned out - all the infection taken out- and that is the BOG thing. Ask your dentist to show you that the infection is gone because often regular dentists who are not skilled endodentists do not know HOW to really do a root canal well. If there is still some ionfection in it- and that is what happened in myu case (I depended on my at the time (this is many yrs ago now) regular dentist to do the root canal and he did, claiming all the infection was gone ,no crown was needed and life would be happy all the time. It was for a few years but off and on that tooth would still bother me. Finally, while visiting my parents in Fla, I had enough and went to a dentist a dentist friend (a pediatric dentist who now does my dental work, he's wonderful! - we actually share a carpool since we work at the same hospital) recommended there. While this ped dentist THEN (1993 or so) did NOT recommend lasers, this dentists who was educated at Harvard, used them and while I can see how it could be a problem for kids, I really did not care if all I had to do was have the infection dug out, the tooth lasered and essentially sewn up. It took maybe 15 minutes and for maybe a decade, said tooth was never heard from again. I loved it and would go back in a Florida minute! (I'd say NY but the guy was originally from Chicago, lol)
(I should not I had trouble with it even before the root canal when an endodentist managed to repair it sans a root canal for a good long while but he alas is retired. He actually did it for free since he owed me a favour. I wish he was still practicing tho not because of the cost - my pediatric friend also never charges me or my insurance company. Absolutely refuses.) But he takes good care of my "patients" who have cancer and cannot have ANY infection, certainly not tooth decay.
But more recently, it acted up again and my friend fixed it - without a root canal and no laser but the infected part was removed and he then sent me to a crown specialist who added one. So far so good but there are days it does I am afraid to admit , hurts! I looked at the xrays and the infection is all gone so I know not why it hurts- I am thinking it may have either precipitated or aided a sinus infection and thus there is some infection inside that area somewhere. It was very deep and may require more specialized teeth repair and not my friends who are excellent - all Harvard grads - but it is one of those teeth that were it not for these guys, it would be the money pit of my life, lol
Like you, I suspect I would just take the darn thing out but it is in the front of my mouth - not the absolute front but on the right side of my front teeth so is very visible. So I have to care for it, sigh!
You know, I also think people our age- I am almost your age - had such horrible dentists as kids that we are not fond of them and this we have allowed our teeth to get worse even when we can afford to go. I tell my friend I have dental phobia and he says "well you seem to like me fine" but I tell him it has nothing to do with him personally and everything to do with the way dentistry was performed on children in the sixties and early seventies. The 1st time I went to a dentist, my dad bought me a toy gun (can't say he was sexist, lol and instructed me that I could "shoot" the dentist if he hurt me. I kind of wish I had used it then, hehheh
What a nightmare, the life story of a tooth, but very interesting, might make a funny play, if done right.
ReplyDeleteI believe I am going to have the tooth pulled. It hurts to chew anything on that side and I think, getting it over and done with is my choice.
And, cheaper, too, at least I hope it is. I was referred to an endodontist in Salem, but I don't know. I heard from people who have gotten temp crowns, and had root canal treatments go on forever and a day, and drive them into bankruptsy, and then have more trouble with the tooth later on.
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